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GWOT Sign Of The Apocolypse?

Posted by zaphriel on March 20, 2006

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The speech had many interesting points, but what perked my ears up , and I found very entertaining was in the followup questions when a woman asked if President Bush thought that the War on Terror was a sign of the Apocolypse.

WOMAN: Thank you for coming to Cleveland, Mr. President, and the city club. My question is that author and former Nixon administration official Kevin Phillips, in his latest book, American Theocracy, discusses what he calls radical Christianity and its growing involvement into government and politics. He makes the point that members of your administration have reached out to prophetic Christians who see the War in Iraq and the rise of terrorism as signs of the apocalypse. Do you believe this: that the War in Iraq and the rise of terrorism are signs of the apocalypse and if not, why not?

This of course elicited chuckles across the room, including the from the President who responded that he hadn’t ever really thought of it that way. While it was quite humerous and deserved the chuckles it got in response, it actually made me wonder how many people do think this way.

One reason that the question stuck in my mind is not because it was so nutty, but because there is a major player in all of this that believes just that. Mr. Ahmadinejad is devoutly motivated by apocalyptic religious beliefs that is driving much of his motivation.

You know what, when the four horsemen apear, I’m bolting…

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Gambling for Peace in Reno – This War is Just

Posted by zaphriel on March 20, 2006

The president continues to speak intelligently to the current situation…

Bush: US will not abandon Iraq


BUSH-DC.jpgCLEVELAND (Reuters) – President George W. Bush said on Monday he understands that unrelenting violence in Iraq has shaken Americans’ confidence but pledged the United States will not abandon the country as the fourth post-invasion year begins.

In a series of speeches, Bush is trying to convince an increasingly skeptical public that he has a winning strategy for Iraq amid widespread concerns that sectarian violence is turning into civil war.

Speaking to the City Club of Cleveland, Bush sprinkled his characteristic optimism with a more somber description than usual of the situation, saying bluntly that Iraq remains an uphill battle three years after the U.S.-led invasion.
“The situation on the ground remains tense. In the face of continued reports about killings and reprisals, I understand how some Americans have had their confidence shaken,” Bush said. “They wonder what I see that they don’t.”

But he insisted progress was being made that the news media are not covering and he cited as an example the northern Iraqi town of Tal Afar.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have wrested the town from the grip of al Qaeda and insurgents, he said, and it is now “a free city that gives reason for hope for a free Iraq.”

U.S. and Iraqi forces had said the town was used as a conduit for smuggling in equipment and foreign fighters from Syria on the way to cities across central Iraq.

What struck me most about yesterday and getting up-close and personal with the Anti-War crowd is this. They are still living in the past (three years ago in fact). They have an attitude that if we walk away it will all go away. It was, even with the most eloquent of them, a bitch fest. If you asked any of them about solutions, you got one of three things.
1. Let the U.N. Handle it and bring our boys home to work here
2. Total avoidance of the question followed up by talking point numbers (like 100,000 civilians killed) – or –
3. Bush made this into such a mess that we can’t pull out, we have to stay, but I don’t like it.

Ok that last one only came from one guy, the most reasonable in the crowd, (I wish I had gotten his name). He didn’t agree with us but he understood most of our stances. But even he cried out loud about the mass of civilians killed (unsubstantiated), and how our boys were dying by the thousands (in fact the lowest rate of attrition of any war we have ever fought).

They were very much still stuck in 2003, arguing about whether or not we should be there, and not living in the present and presenting real answers to situation at hand. There is a grave danger in living in the past and fighting (or in this case re-fighting) battles that have already occurred. Progress is not achieved by living in the past. If they want peace so bad, I think they should be presenting real alternate solutions to the current situation, and stop the bitching. But that could just be me.

I think we are on the right track; we are on the track to victory.

Iraq will see stabilization within the next few years. No-one ever said it was going to be easy or quick, or that we would never make a mistake.

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