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Now Isn’t This Special?

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

These poor high school girls are obviously being persecuted for their, ummm, opinion.
But the ACLU will ride to the rescue, securing their right to say…well, to say this:

I [heart] My Vagina.


And for boys, there is this:

I Support Your Vagina

Now, this is simply more information than I need to know about these girls’, how shall we say it? preferences. And, it’s hard for me to think of any teenage male who would NOT support this particular part of a young girl’s anatomy.

“We can’t really find out what is inappropriate about it,” Rethlefsen, 18, said of the button she wears to raise awareness about women’s issues. “I don’t think banning things like that is appropriate.”

Sooo, what exactly is she talking about being banned? That part of her anatomy which apparently needs “support” from hormonally raging young men? Short of a sex change operation, there is no danger of that. I’m thinking there may be better, and more appropriate, ways to raise awareness of “women’s issues,” than wearing buttons explaining how much one loves their anatomy. The fact that she can’t really see what may be inappropriate about her button says more about her upbringing than it does about her love of, ahem, women’s issues.

But this is a case tailor made for the nuttiness of the ACLU:

Their case could become another test of whether high school students have the right to express their views in school. Charles Samuelson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota, has offered to help the girls.

“It’s political speech,” he said.

Samuelson acknowledged that school officials can limit speech considered detrimental or dangerous. But he said this case is similar to Tinker v. Des Moines, a 1969 U.S. Supreme Court ruling in a case where students were forbidden to wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War. The court ruled that First Amendment rights are available to teachers and students and that administrators’ fear about how others might react is not enough to squelch those rights.

Soooo, being able to wear a button saying “I (heart) my Vagina” or “I Support Your Vagina” is comparable to protesting the Vietnam War?!?!? Only when you fall down the rabbit hole to that Wonderland known as the American left. Sigh.

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Benedict XVI: Peggy Noonan

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

One of the most profound statements to come from a profound writer:

Those who are pursuing John Paul II’s canonization, please note: his first miracle is Benedict XVI.

A moving editorial. Worth savoring for awhile.

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Now Isn’t This Special?

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

These poor high school girls are obviously being persecuted for their, ummm, opinion.
But the ACLU will ride to the rescue, securing their right to say…well, to say this:

I [heart] My Vagina.

And for boys, there is this:

I Support Your Vagina

Now, this is simply more information than I need to know about these girls’, how shall we say it? preferences. And, it’s hard for me to think of any teenage male who would NOT support this particular part of a young girl’s anatomy.

“We can’t really find out what is inappropriate about it,” Rethlefsen, 18, said of the button she wears to raise awareness about women’s issues. “I don’t think banning things like that is appropriate.”

Sooo, what exactly is she talking about being banned? That part of her anatomy which apparently needs “support” from hormonally raging young men? Short of a sex change operation, there is no danger of that. I’m thinking there may be better, and more appropriate, ways to raise awareness of “women’s issues,” than wearing buttons explaining how much one loves their anatomy. The fact that she can’t really see what may be inappropriate about her button says more about her upbringing than it does about her love of, ahem, women’s issues.

But this is a case tailor made for the nuttiness of the ACLU:

Their case could become another test of whether high school students have the right to express their views in school. Charles Samuelson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota, has offered to help the girls.

“It’s political speech,” he said.

Samuelson acknowledged that school officials can limit speech considered detrimental or dangerous. But he said this case is similar to Tinker v. Des Moines, a 1969 U.S. Supreme Court ruling in a case where students were forbidden to wear black armbands to protest the Vietnam War. The court ruled that First Amendment rights are available to teachers and students and that administrators’ fear about how others might react is not enough to squelch those rights.

Soooo, being able to wear a button saying “I (heart) my Vagina” or “I Support Your Vagina” is comparable to protesting the Vietnam War?!?!? Only when you fall down the rabbit hole to that Wonderland known as the American left. Sigh.

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What Makes Blogging Fun

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

There is no better place for the exchange of ideas, and at times even intelligent argument than the blogosphere.

One of my favorite bloggers is Joe, at The New Oklahoma Democrat. He did a post the other day that is well worth reading. It’s a little like looking in a mirror, as his views are the polar opposite of my own.

I’m reminded of the old Star Trek Episode, Mirror, Mirror, where Kirk and company are transferred to another Universe, where they are the exact opposite of who they are in the “real” Universe. Just think, Joe. In that Universe, you are more conservative, more Republican, than I am. In that Universe, John Kerry may have even been coherent at times. 🙂 On the other hand, I shudder at who I would be in that Universe. To quote my 12 year old daughter, it’s just icky….

Joe left a comment on Liberty, that doesn’t make much sense unless you read his post, and my comment on it. The link to the post is here, and the comments are below:

I’m not sure where to begin on this one, Joe. Let’s just deal with the whole Christian thing at the end.

Did God ever enter politics? Yep. The entire book of Judges is God choosing leaders of Israel. It was only when the Hebrews whined and moaned for a king that God gave them Saul. In many ways, Saul was the first political appointee.

Also, I am a Christian. Evangelical, to be exact, from a long line of Roosevelt Democrats. I’ve done alot of “soul-searching” about which party most aligns with my faith. It would be extremely difficult to remain in the Democrat Party, based on it’s platform and agenda. That agenda is the reason you have lost the South, and are losing the Midwest. I would strongly recommend Mike Gegan’s peice in the Boston Review on Monday. You can find the link on Liberty.

Finally, Republicans are not saying that Democrats hate Christians. That’s a distortion, and something of a straw man. What we are saying is that folks like Chuck Schumer have said that if you have “strong beliefs”, and are committed to those beliefs, you cannot be a judge. He said that during the Pryor hearings, in context referring to Pryor’s Catholicism. Those same views, specifically pro-life, would preclude an Evangelical from holding a Federal Judgeship in Schumer’s world. If you can say with straight face that Schumer does not speak for the left, let me know.

Last thing. I firmly agree with your assessment of Dean’s plan to use the Schiavo case. It would be an immense miscalculation, and would confirm all the doubts about Dr. Dean’s selection as DNC Chairman.


Gravatar My argument regarding politics was not regarding has God EVER been political but rather when did God come down and choose the Republicans. Given their track record, I find it impossible to believe he ever would do so. I will edit my statement to better reflect this point. Cheers!

Thank you for visiting Mark. My argument regarding politics was not regarding has God EVER been political but rather when did God come down and choose the Republicans. Given their track record, I find it impossible to believe he ever would do so. I edited the post to reflect my point. (Editor’s Note: Dirty pool!!! Editing your post in response to an admittedly obnoxous reader ie. me negates the context of the comment, rendering it nonsensical. Of, course, some might say it was nonsensical in the first place, so who cares? Sigh) I completely understand your point first of all. Second, I disagree to a point. I understand that there are Democrats who are probably too secular. On the other hand, I also feel that too many Republican leaders are attempting to label the Party as anti-religious. Not all, by any means, but too many. In saying these things, I must also confess that I in turn could never be a Republican because I can’t be involved with the Party that literally uses fear to win votes, is definitely on the side ofbig business and is definitely not the friend of the little man, based on their track record. We may be forced to agree to disagree, but I did want to clarify my point. Otherwise, wonderful response and yes my anger at Dean is growing as I stated. Cheers my friend!

Agreeing to disagree is becoming something of a habit for me here on Liberty.

As I said, the dialogue is what makes blogging fun. Once again, I find myself violating one of my Father’s rules: “There are two things you should never discuss, Politics and Religion.” Sorry Dad. Fortunately, he never heard of blogging before he passed on. Guess I dodged a bullet on that one…Sigh.

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Benedict XVI: Peggy Noonan

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

One of the most profound statements to come from a profound writer:

Those who are pursuing John Paul II’s canonization, please note: his first miracle is Benedict XVI.

A moving editorial. Worth savoring for awhile.

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Interesting reading at bobparsons.com

Posted by zaphriel on April 21, 2005

I found a few interesting posts at Bob Parsons Blog, one of which has to do with the language we speak. Now I don’t hate the french at all really, I just found this post interesting.
Z.

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What Makes Blogging Fun

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

There is no better place for the exchange of ideas, and at times even intelligent argument than the blogosphere.

One of my favorite bloggers is Joe, at The New Oklahoma Democrat. He did a post the other day that is well worth reading. It’s a little like looking in a mirror, as his views are the polar opposite of my own.

I’m reminded of the old Star Trek Episode, Mirror, Mirror, where Kirk and company are transferred to another Universe, where they are the exact opposite of who they are in the “real” Universe. Just think, Joe. In that Universe, you are more conservative, more Republican, than I am. In that Universe, John Kerry may have even been coherent at times. 🙂 On the other hand, I shudder at who I would be in that Universe. To quote my 12 year old daughter, it’s just icky….

Joe left a comment on Liberty, that doesn’t make much sense unless you read his post, and my comment on it. The link to the post is here, and the comments are below:

I’m not sure where to begin on this one, Joe. Let’s just deal with the whole Christian thing at the end.

Did God ever enter politics? Yep. The entire book of Judges is God choosing leaders of Israel. It was only when the Hebrews whined and moaned for a king that God gave them Saul. In many ways, Saul was the first political appointee.

Also, I am a Christian. Evangelical, to be exact, from a long line of Roosevelt Democrats. I’ve done alot of “soul-searching” about which party most aligns with my faith. It would be extremely difficult to remain in the Democrat Party, based on it’s platform and agenda. That agenda is the reason you have lost the South, and are losing the Midwest. I would strongly recommend Mike Gegan’s peice in the Boston Review on Monday. You can find the link on Liberty.

Finally, Republicans are not saying that Democrats hate Christians. That’s a distortion, and something of a straw man. What we are saying is that folks like Chuck Schumer have said that if you have “strong beliefs”, and are committed to those beliefs, you cannot be a judge. He said that during the Pryor hearings, in context referring to Pryor’s Catholicism. Those same views, specifically pro-life, would preclude an Evangelical from holding a Federal Judgeship in Schumer’s world. If you can say with straight face that Schumer does not speak for the left, let me know.

Last thing. I firmly agree with your assessment of Dean’s plan to use the Schiavo case. It would be an immense miscalculation, and would confirm all the doubts about Dr. Dean’s selection as DNC Chairman.
Mark Homepage 04.21.05 – 12:03 am #


Gravatar My argument regarding politics was not regarding has God EVER been political but rather when did God come down and choose the Republicans. Given their track record, I find it impossible to believe he ever would do so. I will edit my statement to better reflect this point. Cheers!
Joseph (OK Democrat)

Thank you for visiting Mark. My argument regarding politics was not regarding has God EVER been political but rather when did God come down and choose the Republicans. Given their track record, I find it impossible to believe he ever would do so. I edited the post to reflect my point. (Editor’s Note: Dirty pool!!! Editing your post in response to an admittedly obnoxous reader ie. me negates the context of the comment, rendering it nonsensical. Of, course, some might say it was nonsensical in the first place, so who cares? Sigh) I completely understand your point first of all. Second, I disagree to a point. I understand that there are Democrats who are probably too secular. On the other hand, I also feel that too many Republican leaders are attempting to label the Party as anti-religious. Not all, by any means, but too many. In saying these things, I must also confess that I in turn could never be a Republican because I can’t be involved with the Party that literally uses fear to win votes, is definitely on the side ofbig business and is definitely not the friend of the little man, based on their track record. We may be forced to agree to disagree, but I did want to clarify my point. Otherwise, wonderful response and yes my anger at Dean is growing as I stated. Cheers my friend!
Joseph (OK Democrat)

Agreeing to disagree is becoming something of a habit for me here on Liberty.

As I said, the dialogue is what makes blogging fun. Once again, I find myself violating one of my Father’s rules: “There are two things you should never discuss, Politics and Religion.” Sorry Dad. Fortunately, he never heard of blogging before he passed on. Guess I dodged a bullet on that one…Sigh.

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But On a More Positive Note: Carville and Begala

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

Before I get to depressed about Trojan RINOs, there is this editorial by Clinton’s chief hatchetmen, James Carville and Paul Begala. The bad news is that some Democrats are admitting they have a problem. But the good news is that they still have no clue what their problems are. Cheers!!!!

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Trojan RINOs

Posted by Mark on April 21, 2005

It’s important to understand what is happening in the Republican party right now. A grassroots movement called Not A Dime More is spreading. As the Bush nominations keep getting blocked, not by Democrats, but by, as My Sandmen calls them, Trojan RINOs, the rage is spreading. And the result is the return of fund-raising requests from the party. I’ve already returned one, with the words Not a Dime More written across it. It appears to be the only way to get the message across that the Bush nominations to the Judiciary matter.

And not just the Judiciary. What the Senator from Ohio pulled yesterday during the Bolton hearings is simply beyond reason. He admits he wasn’t even there for the 2 days of hearings last week! Then votes with the Democrats?!?!? And to think we were worried about Lincoln Chaffee…Sigh.

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